# Where DTC Founders Gain Financial Mastery Margin Talks is the ultimate source for ecommerce financial know-how tailored to DTC founders. ## Latest episode [**Episode 12: Glamour vs. Grind: The Truth About Celebrity-Backed Brands**](/content/academy/podcasts/margintalks/glamour-vs-grind-the-truth-about-celebrity-backed-brands/index.html) A celebrity alone isn’t enough to build a lasting brand," says Sharif Hamid, Head of Endeavor/WME Talent Ventures, as he joins Fan Bi on Margin Talks by Finaloop to reveal what makes celebrity-backed brands thrive—or fail—in today’s competitive market. [Read More](/content/academy/podcasts/margintalks/glamour-vs-grind-the-truth-about-celebrity-backed-brands/index.html) ## More from Margin Talks .webp) [**Episode 11: The Beauty of Innovation, The Beast of Operations in DTC**](/content/academy/podcasts/margintalks/the-beauty-of-innovation-the-beast-of-operations-audrey-leibovich-on-running-a-dtc-brand/index.html) Learn how a professional CEO and product-focused founder created the perfect partnership, managed multi-channel growth, and adapted to changing e-commerce dynamics (we’re not in 2021 anymore). [Read More](/content/academy/podcasts/margintalks/the-beauty-of-innovation-the-beast-of-operations-audrey-leibovich-on-running-a-dtc-brand/index.html) .webp) [**Episode 10: Like a Toddler with $100M on DTC venture with Lee Mayer**](/content/academy/podcasts/margintalks/like-a-toddler-with-100m-lee-mayer-on-dtc-venture-and-building-through-the-correction/index.html) Lee Mayer joins Fan to explain how Havenly Brands is capitalizing on DTC's venture hangover while building a nine-figure home goods empire. [Read More](/content/academy/podcasts/margintalks/like-a-toddler-with-100m-lee-mayer-on-dtc-venture-and-building-through-the-correction/index.html) .webp) [**Episode 09: While You Were Blowing Cash on Meta Ads w/ Modern Citizen**](/content/academy/podcasts/margintalks/while-you-were-blowing-cash-on-facebook-ads-on-modern-citizens-path-to-dtc-success/index.html) Jess Lee joins Fan to discuss how not chasing Meta ROI allowed her to expand into prime retail locations. [Read More](/content/academy/podcasts/margintalks/while-you-were-blowing-cash-on-facebook-ads-on-modern-citizens-path-to-dtc-success/index.html) [**Episode 08: From Friends & Family to Traditional Bank Debt in DTC**](/content/academy/podcasts/margintalks/from-friends-family-to-bank-debt-why-traditional-lending-still-works-in-dtc/index.html) "Accounting is not a cost center," says Ben Brachot, who joins Fan to break down why time-tested financial structures beat trendy alternatives. [Read More](/content/academy/podcasts/margintalks/from-friends-family-to-bank-debt-why-traditional-lending-still-works-in-dtc/index.html) .webp) [**Episode 07: This is a huge red flag: Why this DTC Investor will pass on your brand**](/content/academy/podcasts/margintalks/this-is-a-huge-red-flag-why-this-dtc-investor-will-pass-on-your-brand/index.html) Sam Kaplan joins Fan to share what really makes investors pass on DTC brands, what the "Holy Trinity" of metrics looks like, and why unit economics that don't work today never will. [Read More](/content/academy/podcasts/margintalks/this-is-a-huge-red-flag-why-this-dtc-investor-will-pass-on-your-brand/index.html) [**Episode 06: From Broken Spatula to Exit: DTC Lessons with Sam Rose**](/content/academy/podcasts/margintalks/from-broken-spatula-to-exit-dtc-lessons-with-sam-rose/index.html) Sam Rose joins Fan to share her lessons from founding, selling, and buying DTC brands - and the limitations of the creative spark. [Read More](/content/academy/podcasts/margintalks/from-broken-spatula-to-exit-dtc-lessons-with-sam-rose/index.html) [**Episode 05: Fix Margins With Debt, Kill Your Ecom with Bill D'Alessandro**](/content/academy/podcasts/margintalks/fix-margins-debt-kill-ecommerce-dtc-facts-bill-dalessandro/index.html) Natural Dog Company CEO Bill D'Alessandro joins Fan to talk failed aggregators, fatal financial mistakes, what kills DTCs, and how to avoid this fate. [Read More](/content/academy/podcasts/margintalks/fix-margins-debt-kill-ecommerce-dtc-facts-bill-dalessandro/index.html) [**SPECIAL Episode: What to Expect When You're Closing: A Guide for DTC Founders Closing Shop**](/content/academy/podcasts/margintalks/what-to-expect-when-youre-closing-a-guide-for-dtc-founders-closing-shop/index.html) As Bench's sudden closure rattles the e-commerce world, legal expert Samuel Lockwood-Powell breaks down what really happens when DTC brands shut down. [Read More](/content/academy/podcasts/margintalks/what-to-expect-when-youre-closing-a-guide-for-dtc-founders-closing-shop/index.html) [**Episode 04: Is 2.5 ROAS DTC's Silver Bullet? With Andrew Faris**](/content/academy/podcasts/margintalks/is-2-5-roas-dtc-silver-bullet-andrew-faris/index.html) E-commerce growth expert Andrew Faris joins Fan Bi to challenge the industry's favorite metrics and explore what really matters in DTC financial strategy - from P&L design to measuring what matters. [Read More](/content/academy/podcasts/margintalks/is-2-5-roas-dtc-silver-bullet-andrew-faris/index.html) [**Episode 03: Ecommerce Will Humble You: Brutal Truths From a 9-Figure Founder**](/content/academy/podcasts/margintalks/ecommerce-will-humble-you-brutal-truths-from-a-9-figure-founder/index.html) Fan Bi is joined by Ben Cogan, co-founder and CEO of Agora, as they dive deep into the unfiltered reality of scaling DTC brands to nine figures - and the humbling lessons learned along the way. [Read More](/content/academy/podcasts/margintalks/ecommerce-will-humble-you-brutal-truths-from-a-9-figure-founder/index.html) .webp) [**Episode 02: "Meta Won't Tell You This": Real DTC Talk w/Ministry of Supply's CEO**](/content/academy/podcasts/margintalks/meta-wont-tell-you-this-real-dtc-talk-w-ministry-of-supplys-ceo/index.html) On this episode of Margin Talks, host Fan Bi is joined by Aman Advani, Co-Founder, CEO of Ministry of Supply, to dissect the financial and business know-how required to run a healthy DTC brand. [Read More](/content/academy/podcasts/margintalks/meta-wont-tell-you-this-real-dtc-talk-w-ministry-of-supplys-ceo/index.html) [**Meet Fan Bi: The DTC Veteran Hosting Margin Talks**](/content/academy/podcasts/margintalks/meet-fan-bi-the-dtc-veteran-hosting-margin-talks/index.html) From founder to investor to operator: Meet the veteran asking DTC's hardest questions. [Read More](/content/academy/podcasts/margintalks/meet-fan-bi-the-dtc-veteran-hosting-margin-talks/index.html) [**Margin Talks: Where DTC Founders Learn the Financial Game**](/content/academy/podcasts/margintalks/margin-talks-where-dtc-founders-learn-the-financial-fame/index.html) Introduced by Finaloop, “Margin Talks” is an educational content initiative aimed at providing DTC founders with the financial literacy, transparency, and know-how they crave. [Read More](/content/academy/podcasts/margintalks/margin-talks-where-dtc-founders-learn-the-financial-fame/index.html)